Heroes Never Die, But Do They Get Old?

July 11th, 2023 by Max Allan Collins
Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny, cropped movie poster showing Indiana Jones holding a whip.

The only thing I don’t particularly like about the film Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny is that uninspired secondary title. Oh, and a car chase goes on too long mid-movie.

Otherwise, I was swept up in the Indiana Jones-ness of it all, and have a hard time understanding why so many of the reviews have been tepid or even negative. Several people in the lobby afterward told me how unrealistic they thought it was (unlike, apparently, the incredibly real-to-life previous Indiana Jones movies) and my pal Leonard Maltin condemned it as formulaic (apparently this would have been a good time, in the final installment, to reinvent everything).

Well, I loved it, from the de-aged Harrison Ford in the epic Nazi opening, and the manner in which he kind of gradually eschews his grumpy archeology professor persona – which he’s apparently given in to for decades – and becomes recognizably Indiana Jones again. Right after the strong opening, moving from a Nazi encampment to a roaring train, we are in the present where we learn Jones is divorced from his love-of-his-life wife. Soon Ford strips out of his shirt to show us a decent-for-eighty-years-old physique, but definitely one that has seen all those years and plenty of wear and tear.

As usual, Indy is paired with a young woman, but this time not a love interest – in fact, it’s an apparent daughter (Phoebe Waller-Bridge), who very much holds her own with the old boy. The villain, the reliably odious Mads Mikkelsen, is a worthy one, and complaints about the ending – which pays off the dial of destiny theme and ends with a sweetly satisfying coda – is apparently deemed ineffective by some audience members.

My suspicion is that older viewers are jaded, and younger viewers are not sufficiently aware of the magic of Indiana Jones – for all the complaints about the middle movie of the initial trilogy, those three films were almost as impactful at their pop-cultural moment as Star Wars – and possibly had only the weak Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (an even worse secondary title) to go on.

Look, the filmmakers were smart enough to kill Shia LaBeouf’s character (Mutt!) off between movies. What more do you want?

The soft response to an excellent summer blockbuster (or maybe would-be blockbuster) has to do with the same kind of ageism afoot in a country where that particular “ism” is the only one you can get away with. Ask Joe Biden.

For me, seeing Ford as Jones at his ripe old age (the guy is five years older than me!) is inspiring. No, I don’t believe Ford was doing all of his own stunts, just that I can see how interesting allowing an action hero to age can be. I recall the outrage (justifiable in my estimation) when the producers of a new Lone Ranger movie (in 1981) forbid TV’s Lone Ranger, Clayton Moore, from even wearing his mask at supermarket openings, let alone consider casting him in his iconic role. Hell, he was in his mid-sixties! Does the name Klinton Spilsbury ring a bell? (He’s 73 now.)

What it does for me, as an artist (note I did not spell that “artiste”), is provide food for thought. I would like, if my health cooperates, to write two more Quarry novels (one contracted for already) and two more Nate Heller novels (the subject matter chosen and research under way). The Heller novels require Nate to be the age he would be at the time of the famous historical events I’m planning to thrust him in the middle of. The final book would make him 67 and retired (67, coincidentally, is how old Clayton Moore was when they cast Spilsbury instead).

But I made Quarry around 70 in Quarry’s Blood. I am seriously considering keeping him in his early seventies for these last two books. Nobody complained about his age in Quarry’s Blood, so what the hell? Keeping his age close to mine allows me to write him from a point of view that continues the sort of through-a-glass-darkly autobiography that the Quarry novels represent. It’s, on one level, the story of what might have happened to me if I’d had to go to Vietnam; certainly it’s somewhat the story of what happened to my friend Jon McRae, whose career in the Marines was followed by mercenary work.

I know Mickey Spillane ducked citing Hammer’s age, and it got silly. Mickey insisted (in interviews, not the books) that Hammer was eternally 35. Yet Hammer remains a World War Two veteran in Black Alley, a book set in the year it was published (1996) with Hammer using a cell phone. At the same time, Mickey used health problems (echoing his own) in place of aging Hammer, to be able to present his hero as somewhat damaged goods. I have, in my novels working from Mickey’s unfinished manuscripts, attempted to adjust Hammer’s age (and Velda’s) somewhat closer to reality.

I have always been uncomfortable with series characters who refuse to age. My favorite mystery series, other than Mike Hammer, is Nero Wolfe; but Stout stubbornly refused to age either Archie Goodwin or Wolfe a day. The absurdity becomes abundant when a character from Too Many Cooks (1938) shows up in Right to Die (1964) having aged according to the calendar.

Poirot would have been well over 100, given the age Christie records in The Mysterious Affair at Styles (1920), later reporting him in Beatle-era London in The Third Girl (1966).

Heller has been writing his memoirs and his age, though he’s vain enough to fudge a little, has stayed pretty much even with reality. That’s a set-in-stone aspect of the saga. Quarry has been established to be taking place primarily in two eras (roughly, the ‘70s and ‘80s/’90s). I made him my age when I returned with The Last Quarry for Hard Case Crime, to (I thought) wrap up the series. Quarry’s Blood, for reasons of the age of a certain character who turns up, had by necessity to be set when he was essentially my age.

And I liked it.

So that, for now anyway, is the plan. Of course, as John Lennon said, life is what happens when you’re busy making other plans.

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Among the plans I’m making, in my Pollyanna-ish way, is to do at least a couple more indie movies before I shuffle off to Buffalo (or meet the fate of buffalos).

My friend and longtime collaborator Phil Dingeldein and I are attempting to get a horror film mounted with a real budget ($1.5 mil). We will see if we can make that happen, but it’s not for lack of trying. The project is based on a novella of mine, Reincarnal, available in the collection of my horror short fiction of that name published by Wolfpack.

Reincarnal and Other Dark Tales, cover

Then there’s Blue Christmas. As I write this, we still don’t know if we got some funding from Greenlight Iowa – they are overdue in informing us (either way). But with my friend Chad Bishop – who edited Mickey Spillane’s Encore for Murder and helped Phil shoot the play and several rehearsals, from which we assembled a video – I will do it one way or another. The budget will be low, the cast largely pro-am. But it’s a way to get it done without the decision-making being controlled by Hollywood.

You can see “A Wreath for Marley,” the basis of Blue Christmas, here.

Reincarnal and Other Dark Tales, cover

I am working with Robert Blair at VCI Home Entertainment on getting the expanded Mike Hammer’s Mickey Spillane documentary out on Blu-ray before year’s end. It will include, as a bonus feature, Encore for Murder. We are also considering offering Encore as a DVD, designed primarily for the Golden Age Radio market (Radio Spirits, for example).

I’ll preview the Blu-ray and DVD covers here as soon as they are ready.

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My listing of the Perry Mason TV episodes that appeared here a while back needs some revising, which I will do soon. But Paramount+ double-crossed me. Like so many streaming services, they drop stuff unannounced – and by “drop,” I don’t mean debut something, but literally drop it. A number of Mason episodes have disappeared from the service, including several Gardner adaptations. And the entire seventh season has vanished. The final season (the ninth) was never there, to my knowledge.

To fill in, I had to go to my DVD sets of Mason, which look good but not high-def like Paramount+ broadcasts.

Watching the Gardner adaptations in order, Barb and I find show always good, or at least fun; but it’s the first two seasons that are stellar. It’s interesting to note that by the time we get to 1960, the noir-ish flavor of the ‘40s and ‘50s that so permeates the first two seasons has disappeared…much like numerous episodes on Paramount+.

This all goes to show why physical media is where it’s at. I realize I am a nut about this stuff, and many of you could not care less about Blu-ray when you have a couple of shelves of DVD’s. Or maybe your VCR still works and you indulge in that flawed format VHS, which does have a nostalgia value for some, particularly those who raided the video store shelves on Friday to gather viewing material for the coming weekend.

But if you think “everything” is available, thanks to streaming, think again.

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I mentioned Ellis Parker Butler last week, as the “other” somewhat famous mystery writer from Muscatine, Iowa. I should have noted another one, though this guy only wrote a few mysteries. His name was Samuel Clemens.

He lived in Muscatine for several years before he got famous; his brother ran the newspaper here.

It’s just possible I will never be as famous as Mark Twain.

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THIS JUST IN: I completed this update – rather thought I had completed it – and then Barb and I went off to see the new Wes Anderson film, Asteroid City. I’d been looking forward to it, and both Barb and I really liked certain of Anderson’s other films, specifically Rushmore, Moonrise Kingdom, Isle of Dogs and especially The Grand Budapest Hotel. We were disappointed in Fantastic Mr. Fox, The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou, The Royal Tanenbaums and The French Dispatch. But this was clearly a gifted filmmaker with a distinct and unique voice.

We walked out of Asteroid City, which is an unbearable exercise in fooling good actors into thinking they are in a movie. And probably for scale. It’s the kind of film where you come out humming the art direction. It is intentionally stilted and very intentionally artificial, making sure the viewer has no suspension of disbelief to hang onto. Beyond arch, the definition of twee, Asteroid City is the worst film I’ve ever seen (or anyway forty minutes of) by a talented director.

Certain movies by directors (or in film series) ruin their other movies for me. This is one of those.

I do not like to write reviews that are critical of movies because it’s tough to make even a really bad movie. Anderson has succeeded in doing the latter.

M.A.C.

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9 Responses to “Heroes Never Die, But Do They Get Old?”

  1. Glen Davis says:

    I think a lot of people were turned off by Disney’s recent treatment of other franchises. I was never worried about Ford, I was concerned Phoebe Waller Cates would Mary Sue the entire movie.

    I was surprised I enjoyed it so much.

  2. The internet and particularly You Tube is littered with people who hated Indiana Jones 5 before they’d seen it. These attacks continue, and the notion that it’s a flop at the box office — highly doubtful over the long haul — is already an enduring myth.

  3. Jonathan says:

    Since you mentioned Clayton Moore. I have yet to read his autobio. “I Was That Masked Man” (written with a pro) but it was recommended by the author of two Noel Neil bios & it gets 5 stars from readers at Amazon. My copy will come from the library. I got to exchange a few words with him at a personal appearance in S. CA in the 80’s & found him to be a prince of a fellow & still trim. But he never removed the shades which took the place of the mask. Here’s Jay Thomas’s hilarious Lone Ranger story: https://youtu.be/ZSjo64fJ9iI

  4. PB210 says:

    Regarding the Ranger’s subsequent life, as well as the subsequent life of his nephew Dan Reid, Jr, whose horse Victor received mention here in an earlier post, and whom the 1981 film mentioned, sundry continuities have featured:

    https://dynamiteentertainment.fandom.com/wiki/John_Reid_(Earth-818793)

    http://www.crossoveruniverse.com/2014/09/crossover-covers-moonstones-green.html?m=0

    The Moonstone tales seem more consistent with the original continuity, where Dan Reid, Jr. obviously knew his uncle had operated as the Ranger, but seems to have never imparted this information to his son prior to the 1940’s. Moonstone has also produced a few further prose tales for the Reid family. The connections amongst the Reid family occur per the original creators, in contrast to the connection intimated amongst radio hero Joe Friday and his unsanctioned daughter.

    The inspiration for the Blue Beetle occurs within this situation.

    Regarding having heroes conform to aging normally, the Swamp Thing’s orbit seems to have emphasized this trait. Abigail Arcane, amongst the Swamp Thing supporting cast, introduced as a teenager, turned fifty (50) early in the twenty-first (21st) century. Her daughter Tefe also seemed to approximate normal aging, as born circa 1989, Tefe served as the main teenaged adventurer of the following volume of Swamp Thing. Therefore, she did not suddenly emerge unannounced as Zatanna did. Zatanna’s father Zatara, debuting in Action Comics#1, died during a Swamp thing tale, and he has usually remained dead in subsequent tales, further emphasizing normal time.

  5. PB210 says:

    Quick correction; Tefe operated as a teenaged adventuress.

  6. Scott Cummins says:

    Since you mentioned some of Nate Heller and Quarry you hope to get to (health and long Gevity providing) I was curious if any of the possible future plans include a return to Ms. Tree or Dick Tracy in either novel, graphic novel or mini-series format?

  7. Scott,

    I would consider doing Ms. Tree again in a graphic novel if Terry Beatty were available. But it’s unlikely as he’s tied up drawing and writing the syndicate REX MORGAN strip. I am thrilled that Titan is collecting our work, however.

  8. PB210 says:

    Regarding the Ranger’s subsequent life, as well as the subsequent life of his nephew Dan Reid, Jr., whose horse Victor received mention here in an earlier post, and whom the 1981 film mentioned, sundry continuities have featured:

    https://dynamiteentertainment.fandom.com/wiki/John_Reid_(Earth-818793)

    http://www.crossoveruniverse.com/2014/09/crossover-covers-moonstones-green.html?m=0

    http://maxallancollins.com/blog/2023/06/20/2-shamus-noms-1-birthday-2-gigs-and-much-grumpy-kvetching/ refer to Victor, Dan Reid, Jr.’s horse 

    The Moonstone tales seem more consistent with the original continuity, where Dan Reid, Jr. obviously knew his uncle had operated as the Ranger, but seems to have never imparted this information to his son prior to the 1940’s. Moonstone has also produced a few further prose tales for the Reid family. The connections amongst the Reid family occur per the original creators, in contrast to the connection intimated amongst radio hero Joe Friday and his unsanctioned daughter.

    The inspiration for the Blue Beetle occurs within this situation.

    Regarding having heroes conform to aging normally, the Swamp Thing’s orbit seems to have emphasized this trait. Abigail Arcane, amongst the Swamp Thing supporting cast, introduced as a teenager, turned fifty (50) early in the twenty-first (21st) century. Her daughter Tefe also seemed to approximate normal aging, as born circa 1989, Tefe served as the main teenaged adventuress of the following volume of Swamp Thing. Therefore, she did not suddenly emerge unannounced as Zatanna did. Zatanna’s father Zatara, debuting in Action Comics#1 in 1938, died during a Swamp Thing tale preceding Tefe’s introduction, and he has usually remained dead in subsequent tales and in certain adaptations, further emphasizing normal time.

  9. PB210 says:

    Regarding having heroes aging normally, or at least approximating aging normally to the extent, further on the Swamp Thing series seeming to encourage this approach to an extent; circa 85 years ago, Zatara debuted in Action Comics#1. He died in a Swamp Thing tale in 1986, prior to the 50th anniversary of Action Comics#1 in 1988 and has usually remained dead. Even Tex Thompson/Thomson, also debuting in Action Comics#1, as intimated, made it past 1988. In contrast to Tefe, Abigail Arcane’s daughter in Swamp Thing, though, Zatara’s daughter, Zatanna, just emerged lacking any preamble in the solo Zatara tales.